UPDATED: Three Charged in Plum Child Abuse Probe
The charges come after repeated complaints of abuse at Genesis Child Care in Plum.
Plum police charged three women this week in connection to child abuse that allegedly occurred at the Genesis Child Care facility at Pittsburgh East Community Church in Plum.
Eileen Marie Andrews, 44, a worker at the facility, was arrested on Monday and charged with two counts of simple assault and four counts of endangering the welfare of children. Childcare Director Angela Marie Russo, 49, was arrested Wednesday. Russo and Director of Children's Services Terry Lynn Bachner, 43, were charged with two counts each of endangering the welfare of children and failure to report abuse.
Genesis Child Care closed its doors on April 20, after the complaints surfaced and police acknowledged an investigation.
The criminal complaints paint a picture of Andrews as someone who regularly abused children physically, roughing them up and passing off injuries as accidents under the cover of negligent supervisors. Witnesses told police Russo and Bachner failed to discipline Andrews or notify authorities when multiple employees reported abuse.
Two employees, Ashley Adamski and Kelly Visnic, told police they saw Andrews grab a three-year-old boy by the face with both hands and lift him more than two feet off the ground last November. Later that day, Adamski said, Andrews apologized to her, saying “I got flustered.”
In another incident, employees Ashley Lovas and Christina Maruk told police, Andrews lifted a three-year-old girl and tossed her onto a floor mat because she was talking during quiet time.
The parents of that child told an investigator their daughter’s arm had been dislocated three times since August of last year.
Neither Russo nor Bachner documented numerous employee complaints that Andrews was abusing children, according to the criminal complaint. Russo was hired by Genesis in 2007 and promoted to director in 2010. Bachner had been employed since 1996.
Maruk told police that Russo instructed her not to speak of any incidents she witnessed when the Department of Public Welfare and Office of Children, Youth and Families began investigating. Russo sat in on Maruk’s interview with an investigator, Maruk said, interrupting an investigator’s question by saying, “Remember I asked you if you saw any abuse and you said no?”
Visnic, Lovas and Adamski had left the company by the time police interviewed them. All cited Russo’s and Bachner’s failure to address complaints when leaving.
Both Russo and Bachner told police they were aware of complaints but had not taken any disciplinary action or notified authorities.
Lee Kircher, senior pastor of the church, issued a statement to reporters by email Thursday night and said the church has no further comment at the moment.
“Our hearts and our prayers go out to the children, families and employees of the Genesis Child Care Center who have been affected by the alleged incidents and the closing of the center on April 20,” Kircher wrote.
“Even though the daycare center has closed, we maintain our strong commitment to build a next generation church and to make a positive difference in the lives of the hundreds of children who attend Pittsburgh East Community Church with their families every weekend.”
Preliminary hearings for Andrews, Bachner and Russo are scheduled for May 30 at Plum's District Court.
Erin Hill
10:52 pm on Thursday, May 24, 2012
I'm glad the police followed through and are taking care of things. If these allegations are true, these three women ruined what a lot of us thought was exceptional. Most of us are still mourning the loss of our wonderful daycare and teachers. They must get what they deserve if they've done what they're charged with -- for the victims, their parents, the teachers who are struggling to find other employment, the children who lost their wonderful "home," and the parents who felt like the rug was pulled out from under us.
Adrienne
1:12 pm on Sunday, May 27, 2012
I have known Eileen Andrews for over 12 years. She is one of the only truly honest, righteous people I have ever met. I would trust her with my childrens lives, and have many times. She is kind, caring, compassionate and trustworthy. This is a case of a vendetta pursued by sick vengeful fellow workers. Perhaps you should ask yourselves how it would be possible for such alledgedly terrible things to occur in front of a room full of other adults and children without a word of it ever to be repeated, even by small children who repeat everything they see and hear at that age! Think, people! Don"t let the media destroy the life of an exceptional human being! You should all be concerned, if this could happen to as outstanding as this, what could they do to you? Are you perfect,or have secrets to hide. Does someone have a grudge against you? This is a dangerous world we live in where the media can try and convict us. What hapened to innocent until proven guilty? Do you care that another of our civil rights has just bit the dust? What kind of world are we leaving our children if we let this happen! Be outraged! I am. And if any of you in the media feel insulted by this, then do the honorable thing and find the truth! Check out her accusers. You might be suprised what you find. Is someone out there interested in investigating a story not just throwing 15 second sensationalist blurbs at us!
Hannah
11:20 pm on Thursday, May 24, 2012
I think we should keep in mind that this is all under investigation. There is no need for assumptions to be made until a final decision is made. Plus, this is not alone the reason that the daycare was shut down so the three women cannot be of blame.
Erin Hill
9:24 am on Friday, May 25, 2012
Hannah- Were you involved with the daycare? If your comment was in response to mine, my comments were commending those investigating for following through and hoping justice is served to those who are guilty-- whether its just these three, three others, one person, whoever.
If you're from the daycare, you must understand how difficult this has been for everyone involved.
Karen
1:26 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012
Be careful everyone......you do not really know. Are the people who allegedly saw these things people who are trying to ruin the reputation of upstanding women who otherwise have totally blameless records? Come on, let's not assume. I have heard plenty of times of stories such as this one where people are falsely accused and the snowball effect of such nonsense. Mrs. Andrews is one of the finest people I have ever met. Kind, caring, considerate. I would not believe this for a moment.
Michael
9:31 am on Saturday, May 26, 2012
Jesus is going to be flipping some tables in that church. He would be very disappointed that they chose to ignore this and protect the very large sums of money that come into that church. Sounds like a bible story to me. God would never put anything in front of his children and always protects them. It is a shame this church does not have the same beliefs and morals.
Kelly
2:10 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012
My son attended daycare there. I loved his teachers and the facility. I think what happened is horrible. I too at first thought maybe this was unfounded. But let's get real this church made the decision to close the doors- to save face. The accused is married to someone very much involved in the church,and that is why this may have not been reported. We as patents were lied to. We found out via email months after the accusations were made. Also found out they were closing via email. No meetings, nothing. As they were far more concerned with legal ramifications then the children and teachers they displaced. The more that is comming to light the sicker I am. And as far as your comment about those that reported, they did the right thing it's a shame those in power did nothing with the information. The people that reported had nothing to gain by reporting, other than to protect our children. Thank god they did or it might still be going on. I'm disgusted with how Pittsburgh East handled this, they will get all they deserve.
Erin Hill
4:21 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012
As a journalist, I would never go on accusations without being a witness. I was not a witness, so I have not accused anyone. If you're warning me to be careful, please re-read my comments. I do not believe I accused anyone. I appreciate the warning, though.
Also, I believe the authorities do investigations before taking steps such as arresting people, but I'm no legal expert.
I've had many interactions with Mrs. Andrews and Mrs. Russo, I was amoung the shocked when these allegations started surfacing. I also know the people who reported these incidents, THEY are kind, considerate and caring.
Once people are convicted, we can talk about who was right and wrong. I don't have the time now--I have to pick my son up from the daycare we had to settle on where he's still getting used to new classmates and teachers.
Sarah
10:20 pm on Friday, May 25, 2012
I have known Eileen Andrews since I was three years old and would go so far as to say that she is like a second mother to me. She is one of the sweetest, kindest, gentlest people I know and I know that there is more to this than meets the eye. Her sons are like brothers to me and the only time she ever laid a hand on either of them she cried about it because she just couldn't believe she spanked her child. So I don't know about you people but I think you should be a little more polite and considerate before you judge people you don't even know.
Michael
9:25 am on Saturday, May 26, 2012
"Spanked a child" shook a child what is the difference right. Have some respect for the victims. That child did not abuse himself. If she did not do it who did? Maybe the devil did? Or maybe the child was possessed and she was performing an exorcism on the kids. Are you saying the kids involved deserved this abuse, or saying the abuse never took place? If you are saying that then how did all those injuries happen and why would someone lie knowing the daycare would be closed and all would lose their jobs. Think outside your happy little church for a minute and open your eyes and your minds. If you cannot respect those kids then you should at least respect you church because she and all the people involved covering the abuse up has given it a very bad name.
Leigh Ann
4:42 pm on Saturday, May 26, 2012
Michael ~ That is some imagination you have there!
Unfortunately in this world, people do things for a lot of reasons that I don't understand. I don't think that this would be the first case in history where someone was wrongfully accused. Once the facts are out, we can make note of them and if we are lucky, we may learn some of the truth of what happened.
One thing that I am curious about is the dislocation of the arm of a child 3 times without any red flags being raised by anyone... is that the case? I think I would be seriously concerned the FIRST time it happened. Just wondering if there is more info...
For those of you who are hoping that these people "get what they deserve"... Maybe you should be careful what you wish for. No doubt, this is a very tragic situation and emotions are running high, but our challenge is to remain loving to one another. If correction is necessary, then by all means correct one another in love. That is what the Church is called to do.
Michael
9:15 am on Sunday, May 27, 2012
It is not my imagination. I will trust the people that saw this abuse with their own eyes and were brave enough to report it higher authorities when the church failed to "correct it in love". Is that what you call what the catholic church did in the sex abuse scandals. Physical abuse can also leave long terms scars just like sex abuse does, but forget the kids and love the person that did it instead. After all they are the ones putting money in our collection plate.
Leigh Ann
12:35 pm on Sunday, May 27, 2012
So you imply demon possessed kids being exorcised? Interesting....
I don't believe anyone above said that we should "forget the kids", or defend covering up of abusive situations inside the church or out. These people are NOT proven guilty yet, and if the article were unbias it would have presented some of the facts that imply that maybe there should be more investigation and less accusation.
Your statement about forgetting the kids and loving the abuser is absurd.
maggie
4:18 pm on Sunday, May 27, 2012
Children & Youth Services (CYS) AND Children, Youth and Family Services (CYF- Allegheny County Department of Human Services) did thorough investigations on these these women, the rest of the staff and the daycare regarding these outrageous accusations and deemed them unfounded! Perhaps some vindictive, reprehensible co-workers couldn't get enough satisfaction from those agencies seeing through their lies...so, they decided to take their 15 minutes of fame to continue to try to slander a church and these three women. I just hope, that as the truth comes out, the ones who filed false abuse claims will be charged to the fullest extent of the law. They are the reason why real abuse victims fall through the cracks.
Donna
5:05 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Wake up. They buried everything knowing well that CYS was coming. I do know the people that "rescued" these children. Anyone who puts their own pride and righteousness above this issue has deep emotional problems.
Michael
9:25 pm on Sunday, May 27, 2012
Cover up = hide from view or knowledge
Three now arrested and charged
Justice = the moral principle determining just conduct.
maggie
8:08 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
Cover up? And who is crying "cover up?" The same accusers lying that there was abuse. What a shocker!
Obviously someone who has no knowledge or understanding about how any of the systems above work. And no desire to find out. Others refuse to live with their heads in the sand. And realize that the purpose of CYS and CYF is to investigate the safety and possible abuse of children (and ALL accusations of abuse). That is what they do. And charges can be filed by the police without proof, just on the severity of accusations. Welcome to the American judicial system! Tomorrow, anyone's name could be in that slot. Frightening, huh?
But, I do agree with the only glimmer of wisdom shown so far....Justice. When the truth comes out...There WILL be justice. These 3 will be cleared. And, hopefully, those who lied (especially when/if they choose to lie under oath) will face justice themselves. Perhaps then, we will all see the wrath of a judicial system toward those without integrity or moral fiber, who use innocent children as a weapon to harm innocent people.
Because everyone deserves justice, right?
Donna
7:35 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
I will be waiting for you to apologize to the "rescuers' very soon.
Ray S Lyle
8:51 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
when someone can answer how the girls arm can be dislocated 3 times in 6 months and now coming forward after the 3rd dislocation (Parents) should have been doing something after the first one. The frightning thing is child abuse and that is sad. Some of you dont seem to care about the children on here.
Barbara
9:43 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
Wrong Ray - everyone cares about the kids.. get serious!!!!!!!
Barbara
9:46 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
Maggie says it all... read her post again. There is a lot of wisdom in her words.. YES there will be justice for all of the innocent. Yes, the police were just doing their job on accusations..
Randi
10:44 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
What both Leigh Ann and Maggie say are many of my thoughts on the situation as well. If A child's arm was dislocated last August, I would have been pretty sure any parent would be taking that to the police immediately, and if not the first time, SURELY the second time...so why didn't it happen that way? I know both Eileen and Terry and the accusations being made are unlikely due to their character. I also believe that Michael is talking a lot of nonsense. Pittsburgh East is a wonderful church full of happy, smiling children every week. We are a church that caters to kids and wants nothing but the best for them. This is a very sad situation for the children, the accused, the church and everyone else that has been involved in hours of questioning, etc. The CYS/CYF did their job and cleared it. The police, I suppose, are doing theirs by reporting what they hear. But believe me, what they heard and how they presented it are two very different things. Very one-sided if you ask me. Standing strong as a proud member of Pittsburgh East, knowing God will see this through.
Ray S Lyle
11:06 am on Monday, May 28, 2012
Barbara, so everyone places the kids welfare first. Read some of these posts, like the one you say to read. absolve your 3 friends but bring the hammer down on the accusers. Thought everyone preaches forgiveness? Jesus forgave those who put him to death. What does your church preach? Forgive my friends, hang the others?
maggie
7:39 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012
Ray, there are always 2 sides to every story. I'd like to know if the report says the dislocations were IN the daycare 3x? or just 3x in 6 mo? But, you have a great point. Jesus did forgive them. He knew He had to die so that we could see eternal forgiveness. We all need it. All of us sin. The Bible says to forgive. But it also says to love the sinner & hate the sin. Where does it say not to hold the guilty responsible? For example, if (God Forbid) you wife was raped. There should be forgiveness. BUT, if caught, would you let him free to rape more women? or worse? If a DUI kills your child (another God forbid). Do you let them walk away? Vandalism to your car/house? Do you smile & pay for it yourself? If you truly believed that, there would be no need for jails, detention centers, drug & alcohol facilities, etc.
The accused aren't asking for forgiveness, nor do they need to! They've done nothing wrong. Its like saying (back to examples) your wife needs forgiveness for being raped? Or your family for your child's death? That's ludicrous. And, I never said "hang." I said "justice." The false accusers should be held accountable for the damage their lies have caused (financially, emotionally, & in the community). That is justice.
Ray S Lyle
8:12 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012
Maggie to me it just seemed that you re just eager to clear your 3 friends, and you are too gung ho to go after the accusers. thats what the court is for. I am keeping an open mind until the trials. And no, you commit a crime you pay the price. Be it the 3 women, or the 4 accusers. No I question the 3 dislocations in 6 months. Where were the parents. I did not blame the 3 women. I want to know how this
happened
maggie
9:41 pm on Monday, May 28, 2012
I AM eager,but,not because they're friends. Because they're innocent. Not like neighbors saying Ted Bundy "seemed like a nice guy." I have known Eileen for many yrs. She is caring,sweet,generous & makes a point to love & accept everyone. Good,bad,ugly, doesn't matter. She feels people's pain & would do anything for a stranger,let alone those she cares for. We learn in church to try to find the good in people. But,when Eileen looks at people,she sees what God sees. Loves them like He does. It may seem strange to you, & I'm sure some joker is going to slam me for saying it,but the honest to God truth is that she's the type of person I ASPIRE to be. & its hard to watch someone like that unjustly accused. Her whole life/calling has been caring for & ministering to children. And now,because of spite,the reputation she has hard EARNED is tarnished. Right or wrong,I AM gungho to go after the accusers. But,when I was all fired up,talking to Eileen,you know what she said? "They made a really big mistake. All they've done is guarantee that I will pray for them every day,for the rest of my life." She said,"I keep praying God will do something awesome thru all this. But,as I pray,I find myself coming back to praying for them.Their lives,their hurt,their provision,that God would draw them to Him & they would allow Him into their lives." THAT is Eileen.
& the dislocations tingle my "spidey senses" too. For the girl's sake, I hope its nothing but also hope someone takes a deeper look.
Michael
6:49 pm on Wednesday, May 30, 2012
I am sure she is a really nice person, but people handle stress in different ways and then you add children to that. Some people are not meant to work with a group of children. I have been told by other former workers about hoe she did not treat children in a professional manner. You say she has always been nice to you. I am sure that is true, but I assume that you are older then six. I do not think she would rough you up. Just as people should not be quit to accuse, you should not be so quick to aquit. One of us are correct. I would never want my kid with an accused child abuser. What about you?
Barbara
7:57 am on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
To Samantha: Yes, that is exactly the Eileen Andrews we know and love. It shouldn't have surprised me when Eileen said (thru all of this ugliness) that she is praying for everyone - everyone in this situation. She always puts others ahead of herself - no surprise there. And that God will do something awesome with this.
some one who knows
12:42 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
as a former employee of this center, I have had all of my children in the care of at least two of the people arrested. I must say my youngest two did not really care for Eileen and one of them even told me at one point Eileen was going to smack her for talking during nap,until she saw me walk past the window. My other child was terrified of her and fought with me everyday about going to school there. I personally have witnessed roughness that never should have happened, It was all questionable at the time, however still not right. My oldest one liked her at first then said about 2 months later he did not want to go to church there anymore. I did leave the daycare for many reasons. One of which was what I witnessed and my complaints being ignored. I felt when I worked there Terry and the rest of the church treated employees differently as long as they attended the church. I am thankful that I got out when I did and embarrassed as a childcare provider that a "godly person" could treat children this way. I understand at times we all get frustrated with the children we care for but I know the families on a personal level before they even attended this daycare and feel horrible they had to go through this, however this still doesnt make what she did ok. Justice will be served and the truth will come out and you can believe what you want but knowing and seeing what I did I truly believe that everyone will be surprised in the end.
Barbara
12:55 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
To "someone who knows" odd name.... anyway, interesting - sounds like sour grapes - very interesting
Barbara
12:56 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
One more thing to "someone who knows" -- and why are you a former employee?
Donna
6:36 am on Wednesday, May 30, 2012
You are one of the reasons crime is not reported.
Marisa A.
3:06 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
I am a close personal friend to one of the "accusers" - as they are being called. She and I have been friends for over 20 years and I find some of the statements above completely infuriating. Let me assure you that she had no personal agenda in this other than to do the right thing and experienced a great deal of anguish over how to best handle the situation. She is completely mortified to have her name in the press and would love to make this all go away if she could. Also - I feel that I should add that the police did an investigation BEFORE anyone was arrested. As far as I know, they can't go arresting people without at least SOME probably cause. I do not know the "accused" and will not comment on their motivations or pass judgment on their guilt, and I ask that you do the same for my friend and her former co-workers.
George
3:21 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
The DA would not have signed off on the warrants if they did not have the evidence to proscute!
Pam
3:52 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
I have sat and written reply after reply and then deleted them because you know what...I said I wasn't going to stoop to this level. But I am now just sick over the comments rolling in here post after post...all defending Eileen and the other 2 as far as what wonderful people they are? So didn't eveyone think that Sandusky was the most upstanding man and had a life's mission to help young boys? WOW what happened there? And didn't everyone think that every priest has a calling from God to serve Him and His children? WOW what happened there?not everyone shows their true colors to everyone. I will say if the Eileen Andrews is doing some praying...I hope she is praying for you all and the safety of these children. I am the mother of the 3 year old boy and my child did come home with marks on him! TRUST ME!!! I brought them up! I was lied to!!!Don't even try to question parenting here.This investigation had been going on months before the center closed in April! MONTHS!!! And CYF---yeah they did a real thorough interview of staff members..some that worked in the room and some that didn't. And the ones that did had their immediate supervisor breathing down their necks. We will see how this all plays out in court...but I thank God everyday for the people coming forward to help protect my son! These witnesses are mothers, nurses, teachers etc. They have absolutely nothing to gain from coming forward other than peace of mind.
Pam
4:01 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
The CYF investigation that was done was a while back also...the CYF investigation that was done regarding these incidents was closed due to the fact it went to a criminal investigation with charges being pressed. So brush up on your knowledge of CYF...once the police are involved and an active investigation being persued CYF backs off in order not to jeapordize the investigation. And if these charges had no merit I highly doubt the DA would set himself up and waste tax payer dollars when there are I'm sure a bunch of things going on. So just see how it goes..And Barb..if you take your rose colored glasses off for a minute you might have read that the above poster left the daycare for multiple reasons but one was reporting what she witnessed and her reports being ignored. Just thought I would clarify that since your view seems a bit tainted.
IT IS ABOUT PROTECTING CHILDREN, PEOPLE!!! Not about anything else...get that fact straight!
Barbara
4:21 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
We will just have to wait for the final outcome - people. Rather than take sides. But let me say this --- in a perfect world (which we are not) kids wouldn't get bruises playing with other kids or playing on the playground, running and falling on their own, on and on. Pam, I have taken my rose colored glasses off a very long time ago - thanks for your advice but no thanks
Ray S Lyle
4:38 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Pam, I hope your son is Ok, My first post I said worry about the children, but that fell to deaf ears, more worried about the 3. Think someone who knows is right if you are not a church member your opionion means nothing. I belong to Riverside in Oakmont so you people cannot look down on me. Christians....... shame on you
Ray S Lyle
4:38 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Barbara, way to show compassion to Pam.
George
4:52 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Pam, you said it better than I could. I hope your son is safe now. Like I said in my post, if there's no evidence they wouldn't have been arrested.
George
4:54 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Barb, yes kids will get bumps and bruises however they should not be afraid to to go to school or cry when they see a particular person.
Donna
5:15 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Maggie and Adrienne that's very nice of you to defend your friend Eileen, however you don't know the "accusers" at all and demeaning them and call these women vindictive and vengeful is a bit out of line. Maggie, there was a cover up. The director telling employees to lie to CYF when they came to investigate and also telling parents lies who came asking about their child's "bumps and bruises." It truly amazes me that people refuse to believe 4 women who have NOTHING TO GAIN out of this. And the 15 minutes of fame comment is funny too because other than this article, I haven't seen the "accusers" faces anywhere. They had plenty of opportunity to talk when news vans came knocking on their doors, but they didn't! So you need to get your facts straight before you go slandering the names of women you have never met.
some one who knows
5:46 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Barb apparently u need new glasses I said I left for several reasons one being that my complaints were being ignored. However another reason is better pay and benefits.... The center was bringing in money and instead if paying their qualified experienced employees they hired child abusers... But never could pay their employees that were worth something another reason the church is a cult anyone and everyone who attends it is being brain washed so now that we got that on the table and my opinions are said let's move on. Apparently barb u have no love for children because ur first question would have been omg what if that was my child.... Not knowing or caring who the abuser was that should have Been ur first thought. And Pam is right look at the Sandusky trial something here cover up abuse and it will bite u in the ass everytime!!!!! Good luck defending Eileen in my eyes she is and always will been a mean nasty person
My kids will never be around again. Pam remember if I can help in any way u k ow how to get a hold of me!
someone who cares
7:20 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
I just want to say thank you for the accusers for doing the right thing! To protect the children is what we are supposed to do! You guys did the right thing, these people on here are just mad because they probaly found out that you didnt belong to their church! Well who would want to it was always known as the cult. I also want to say thank you to the people who are making comments and sticking up for the accusers and not the abusers! If you guys need me for anything and that includes pam I am here for you!
maggie
7:41 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
The person calling themselves "Pam" can't possibly be one of the victim's parents. Know why? Because if you really were, the police wouldn't allow you to discuss the case in public (the "witnesses" can't either). I also doubt it because the REAL parent,would have been notified that the CYS/CYF investigations were UNFOUNDED,not "dropped." If they believed the allegations were true,they would have declared it "founded" & pushed it on to the police. They wouldn't put unfounded on a real child abusers record!! The abuser could continue to work with children! But, I've caught you in your own lies! Anyone can contact CYS/CYF & verify that. But, I appreciate you proving to the readers the type of liars involved in this case. Oh, & the police didn't decide to go ahead with the case until a month after CYS/CYF completed their investigation & deemed it unfounded (confirm with the police). The REAL parent of the alleged victim would know that. But, as I said, you've just proven the extent these liars will go. My job here is done. Too easy.
someone who cares
7:42 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
donna don't hold your breath about the rescuers getting an apology,the abusers wouldn't stoop that low to apologize and look the two bosses if thats what you want to call them couldn't protect the children!
Ray S Lyle
8:04 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Tomorrow is the hearing, we'll start to see what's going on. Pray for the children!
Pam
8:04 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Hey Maggie...go ask Eileen what the mother's name is. THat is public knowledge...ask any news reporter that was at my front door Thursday and Friday! Shame shame shame. I'm done with this bantering back and forth and won't discuss this matter any further. And Maggie my attorney has told me I can talk to anyone I please. The abusers have been told by their attorneys not to talk...not the police. The police investigation is over! Don't bother commenting...Maggie or Barb or whomever you are...I realize the caliber of people I'm dealing with here. I only wanted to say that this is about protecting children and that is exactly what the 4 women did! Protected my child and many other future victims and for that I am forever grateful!
someone involved
8:15 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
ok maggie now u have gone way too far! Who do u think u are?! How dare u say pam is a liar? I happen to know that family extremely well & am involved in this case in a major way! U have no idea what you are talking about! The police have been investigating this case since February....justice will be served....maybe you should put your energy and your words into praying for eileen, angela & terry!
someone who cares
8:36 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
way to go pam and also someone involved! Who does maggie think she is? Oh thats right the cult brainwashed her.those poor parents that took their kids there and got lied to all those years.But WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE CHURCH people and not the children thats how sick they are! Thats such a shame. the abusers go to church their faithfully and they lie,let's not tell the parents we can lie and say it was an accident. IT WAS NO ACCIDENT and from what I wasd told the director told eileens coworkers to lie to the parent who is pam! Also thank you whoever went to the police, you saved the children and this probaly from happening in other daycares!
Heather
10:39 pm on Tuesday, May 29, 2012
Did some of you that posted on here loose sight of the one and only thing that is important here? These children have no voice. The only voice they have are those that are willing to stand and fight for what is right. Abusing children is not right by any means. No human being deserves that. The comments on here only make it more difficult for those that have been abused at some point in their life to come forward about it. Just because the accused is a " well respected" individual . This is not how we, as human beings should face these challenges. To Pam : You have set such an amazing example for your children. Keep your voice loud, as you are the voice for all that are vulnerable to abuse.
Susan
1:17 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012
Dear Jesus, You know the whole truth. Protect and heal all involved, especially the children. Shine your light of Truth.