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Zoo Tragedy: Painted Dogs that Mauled Child Won't Be Euthanized. Should Outdoor Exhibit Be Changed?

Pittsburgh Zoo and PPG Aquarium CEO Barbara Baker said the African painted dogs will remain in quarantine for 30 days. The zoo will reopen Tuesday.

 

The African painted dog that mauled a 2-year-old visitor to the Pittsburgh Zoo and PPG Aquarium will not be euthanized, but all of the zoo’s African painted dogs would remain in quarantine for 30 days, zoo CEO Barbara Baker announced Monday.

The boy, who neighbors told the Pittsburgh Tribune Review was Maddox Derkosh of Whitehall, was with his 34-year-old mother, when he fell from the top of a platform railing to the ground inside the pit in the dogs' exhibit, according to a statement from the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police.

Police said the child lost his balance after his mother lifted him in a standing position onto the 4-foot-high wooden railing that overlooks the enclosure.

"The child was caught by the safety netting below the railing," Baker said. "But from what we understand from witnesses, the child was so small he bounced twice, then fell into the pit. The netting caught him, it just didn't hold him."

The Allegheny County Medical Examiner's office determined the child did not die from the fall, Baker said.

"The child was mauled by dogs," Baker said. "It happened so quickly. It happened literally in seconds. There was very little anyone could do."

Baker said staff members arrived outside the exhibit within seconds, but the exhibit was too dangerous for them to enter with 11 dogs inside.

Baker said zoo personnel were able to secure 10 of the dogs. Police shot and killed one dog, which exhibited aggressive and violent behavior.

Asked if the zoo took responsibility for the death, Baker said the staff did everything it could do.

"We discourage anyone from sitting on the railings, and they are built at a 45-degree angle facing away from the exhibit, so that if a child would fall, we hope it would fall backwards (away from the exhibit) rather than forwards," she said.

"But life is full of risk, and there is no such thing as a fail-proof exhibit."

Baker said the zoo's safety committee meets regularly, tours the facility and makes recommendations that are implemented as soon as possible.

The African painted dogs will remain in quarantine for 30 days as a precaution. Their vaccinations were all up to date, and they all had undergone thorough physical examinations in September.

The exhibit will remain closed through the winter, and Baker said it’s too early to predict its future.

Several investigations are underway, including those by the Pittsburgh Police, the USDA and the zoo itself.

The zoo will reopen Tuesday.

"The zoo feels terrible," Baker said, fighting back tears. "It's the worst nightmare a zoo professional can have."

Poll Question (below): Have you ever visited the African Painted Dog exhibit? Did you think it was safe?  

Do you think the zoo could have done anything more to prevent this tragedy? Should the exhibit be changed? Share your thoughts in the comments box below.

  • If you visited the African painted dogs exhibit in the past, did you see any problems? Did you consider it safe or unsafe?

    (Voting has been closed for this question)
    • Safe
        118 (77%)
    • Not safe
        13 (8%)
    • Not sure
        10 (6%)
    • Have never been there
        12 (7%)
    Total votes: 153
  • Your vote will only count once. This is not a scientific poll. View Results Vote!
Related Topics: African Painted Dogs, Barbara Baker, Boy Killed at Zoo, and Pittsburgh Zoo & Aquarium

Michele Lombardo

2:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I think that as parents we think safety, and what better way can you protect your child than in your arms. This was simply an accident, and a sad and tragic one at that. I can only imagine how the mom feels. But I think the painted dog exhibit is safe, we as parents have to be more attentive and smart about our actions! I am an offender of lifting my children over that same rail to see the dogs, and it's a shame that I have to take someone else's complete misery to learn a lesson.

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Josh Meeder

2:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

This is a tragedy in every sense of the word. A family has lost a child, an endangered animal was killed and a great civic organization has been tarnished. The comments that people are posting online about this incident are truly vulgar. A mother lost a child. She didn't throw him into the enclosure. It was an accident and mistake. The one animal was shot. I am glad to see that none of the other dogs will be put down for simply behaving as their nature demands.
I hope that people can exercise some compassion and express some humanity for the family, zoo and animals. It is a truly tragic situation for all involved.

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Rae M

3:03 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I agree completely with Josh. It is truly shameful how quick people are to judge in these tragic situations. We all need to put the focus back on showing compassion and humanity, as Josh so eloquently stated. Everyone involved in this tragedy is going through enough pain and heartbreak.

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Heather Fisher Longerman

6:16 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Very well said Josh, kudos to you!!
I totally agree with you, and my heart goes out to the family for their loss, and to all involved at the zoo. It is sad that an animal was lost also. I hope others will learn from this tragic accident.

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Oren Spiegler

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

No one could have stated the case better than Mr. Meeder: right on all counts, sir. Thank you for your level-headedness and good sense.

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Reba's Pet Service

8:27 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Very Well Said Josh, I agree 100% with you, this was a tragic accident but to no fault of the dogs or the zoo. I feel for these parents and pray for them. I feel for everyone in this situation, the zoo, the workers and the witnesses. this had to be tramatic. Prayers for everyone.

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Tara Smith

10:02 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

I agree with everyone here, Josh, you have seriously been the most level headed and non-judgmental person on here. Kudos to you good-sir!

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Robert Edward Healy, III

2:53 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

UPDATE: Police Confirm Zoo Mauling Victim to Be Whitehall Resident - http://patch.com/A-zrJv

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Beth J

3:03 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Please, please don't lift you child over the rails. I feel so sorry for the parents, and I know the Zoo does everything it can to protect us.

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James

2:44 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

she didnt lift her child over the rail. I know the family and what happened. Maybe you should shut your piehole since you dont know anything.

Rich

3:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I admit my Facebook wall was lit up with lots of comments on this, some more alarmist than others. Clearly a ba decision to have her child on the railing, but also one that, as a zoo member, I have made myself. I'm a large, strong father that likes to think this could never happen to me, but the reality is this accident will cause me to rethink my own similar actions in the future. I am going to go with the conclusion this was just a freak accident, and I'm sure the parents suffering through this is more than enough punishment, sad as it is. Being the first fatality ever for the zoo, I don't think this could be foresee or that it's the zoo's fault. A parent dropped their child, and that same parent has to assume the risk, knowing that anytime we stand our children on a 4 foot railing there is inherent risk in that act alone. Might the zoo choose to put a larger safety net in the future? Sure. That makes sense. But I'm not sure anyone could have foreseen this tragic turn of events from an act many of us are guilty of ourselves.

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Carolyn Bassin

3:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Josh said it perfectly. It is a true tragedy.

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jan brodie

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Tragic for the family, the dogs and the zoo. People are so quick to condem animals - they are animals. Unfortunately today people behave more like wild animals than the animals. Really a bad idea to put a two year old on a railing.

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James

2:44 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

she didnt. if you dont know what you are talking about shut up

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NE12Ukid

8:09 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012

Pittsburgh police Major Crimes Lt. Kevin Kraus said the boy's 34-year-old mother placed the child in a standing position on a wooden railing overlooking the enclosure.

"Almost immediately after that he lost his balance, fell down off the railing

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-city/child-killed-in-pittsburgh-zoo-exhibit-660606/#ixzz2Dluw9CzX

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cc

8:09 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012

Jan I have to agree with you putting your child on top of the railing was a tragedy and hope others learn from this. I pray for the child that lost his life though no fault of his own.

Sandra Reech

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

It is a tragedy. I would hope that the area where the child fell can be changed that no one can get up on that railing. Parents lift small children up to see....I have not seen this exhibit but I would hope there are areas where very small children can safely see the animals.

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Brooke Lynn Moran

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Thank you Josh for your comment. The family is a truly loving, caring family that centered their world around their little boy. This was such a tragic accident and I know people all over the world are giving their prayers to them.

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Jim Hart

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

My wife and I were just at the Zoo (and this exhibit) 2 weeks ago. We've been there many times before and every time I'm out there on the deck with the kids I get a bit of an uneasy feeling. That part exactly where the boy fell is what made me uneasy. It just seems like it is too open to the pit below and the catch fence didn't give me a lot of confidence. They need to alter the whole setup or just close the exhibit down completely. After what happened who really wants to see those dogs.

This is such a horrific event that I cannot imagine going through as a parent. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family.

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debbie

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I completely agree. I have 4 children and have been to the zoo countless times. That exhibit has always made me nervous. My children have tried to climb up themselves. I feel like it should have had the mesh enclosure like the side does.

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Kristin

8:27 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I agree; who would want to see those dogs now? They are the least interesting feature of the zoo anyway, a waste of space and now they are just a reminder of a heart break. The poor, poor family the poor mother and father, I also cannot imagine what they are suffering today and forever more. It's overwhelming even for me, and I still have my 2 year old daughter. My prayers are with the mom and dad. Kristin

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Payton Blake

7:01 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

The net isn't meant to catch people who disobey safety rules, it's meant to catch small objects like cameras and phones. The safety features are sufficient, it is the patrons of the zoo who must take responsibility for themselves by following rules and making sure those in their care do the same.

Bo 15108

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Sorry, but I see it as the Zoo's fault, they did NOT have everyone's safety in mind if a Child fell into the inclosure, Parents with children visit the Zoo to see Animals...Dad OR Mom is going to help their child SEE the animals, having a railing at a 45 degree angle is NOT a deterrent to someone falling in, a GLASS WINDOW in this instance would have been SAFE....The ZOO safety Committee FAILED.

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RPD

5:05 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

It's not the zoo's fault, it's not the animals' fault, it's not the mother's fault . . . it doesn't MATTER. THe bottom line is that a child is dead, and he's left behind devastated parents and family and friends. Now's not the time to be pointing the finger. What the family needs now is love, and kindness, and prayers.

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kristieb521

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

There is a glass window at that exhibit for this very reason.

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Bo 15108

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Obviously you have not seen that DECK, everywhere BUT where the child fell has a wire shield in place to KEEP anyone from falling into that inclosure... The article states the Zoo's safety committee inspect the grounds regularly and make suggestions, I'm COMMENTING on the safety of that DECK, the Zoo is at fault.. yes a child died that's sad no doubt about it, BUT... blame must be assigned, repairs must be made... and OPINIONS must be HEARD.. Nuff Said now ?

JoAnn

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

This was truly a horrible accident. No people or animals should be punished. I am sure the family needs all the prayers it can get. I will pray for them and all involved.

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Trina

4:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Anyone of us can say what we shoulda, coulda done but until your in that situation you will never know. I feel we all have done things that could have ended in a tragedy without even thinking twice. My heart goes out to the mother and father of this child and I will pray for them.

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Silkyslim

7:35 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

I truly agree "Anyone of us can say what we shoulda, coulda done but until your in that situation you will never know." I said the same thing to other co-workers..

Sue T

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I have seen this exhibit once, and honestly don't remember how the fence, etc. are aet up. I don't blame the animals or the zoo. It was an accident. The article states they have regular safety reviews of the exhibits. The suggestion I would make is once or twice a year, have an independent reivew. Have the safety committee from the Pittsburgh Zoo and another zoo, trade inspections for a month. It would bring fresh eyes and ideas to both zoos.

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Julia Farkas

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

How can 79% say that the rail was safe? It obviously was not if it resulted in a death. 4 feet high? That's a joke, any toddler can jump over it.

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Leanne

7:59 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I think by people saying the rail was safe they were thinking of a toddler climbing it.. I know when my kids even attempt to I freak out and yell at them to get down, because i'm terrified they will fall in.. I can't imagine the pain this family and mom is going through, but we also can't place blame on the dogs or the zoo.. All their safety things were current.. Just some bad judgement, which we all have made as parents.. I'm sure she didn't go to the zoo that day thinking he was going to fall into the exhibit.. Maybe the zoo could make the fence a bit higher or put glass windows up, but still won't bring him back.. Should it have been done before? IDK the answer to that, I don't think anything like this has ever happened and it's deeply sad that it has happen to this poor family.

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shauna penska

9:37 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

The rail on the viewing side is only 4 ft high, the drop from the other side is like 14 ft or something. Regardless, it's not safe, there is no netting surrounding the area from where the child fell.

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Reba's Pet Service

8:27 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

@ Shauna watch the news and read more info before you comment. There is a net under the railing where the child fell, If fact he bounced on it twice before falling into the enclosure. @Julia the child did not climb over or jump over the railing the mother Picked him up and placed him ( standing) on top of the railing. He lost his balance because the railing is slanted in toward the deck at a 45 degree angle. This is a Tragic accident and the zoo and the animals are not at fault. Unfortunately the mom who placed her son on top of that railing convicts herself every second of every minute for what she did to accidentally contribute to this tragedy. Its sad a prayers should be made not hate speech.

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Ed M

7:53 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

Julia,
Isn't it the parents responsibility to not let their kids do things they shouldn't do? And wouldn't climbing on pretty much any railing be one of those things a kid shouldn't do?

Kathy

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Assigning blame to just about any tragic event is part of the grieving process and an attempt to make an illogical situation "logical." Accidents usually are not logical, they are unfortunate "twists of fate." My compassion goes out to this child's parents who will carry their grief for the rest of their lives; there is no need to condemn anyone.

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Haley

7:33 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

They need to place glass windows in. It is an open area which should be closed off.

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Leanne

7:59 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

This is such a horrible accident that occured yesterday. I feel for this poor family and mom.. We all make decisions on the spot, sometimes those decisions may not be the best ones (this may have been the case here) but i'm not going to bash this poor women for this.. she is already going through enough and doesn't need to read the crap that some people are posting.. i am a mom to 3 boys ranging in age of 12-4 yrs old.. I know if it were one of them, I wouldn't be able to go on as a mom. I just hope they can find the strength to continue to live and get past this one day.. She will forever have to think about this incident and live w/ the lost of her child which NO PARENT should have to face. We can all sit here and say "Oh I would have done this or that" But until your in that situation (and I would pray no one ever is again) you don't know what you would or wouldn't do.. I'm sure it was shocking and tramatizing to everyone who witnessed it.. Could someone have jumped in maybe, could she not have lifted him up that high maybe, but those decisions have already been made and it won't bring him back, or bring them less pain. I can only hope people will stop judging her and start being there for them as a community. Show the support, Prayers as any parent would need at this time.. No parent is perfect.

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Amy

10:38 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Amen Leanne! Prayers to the family.

M L spazok

7:59 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Heres a thought. tots should be in strollers for their own safety. have you ever been in a restauant where tots are roaming about and the parents think it is cute. Happens in many public areas such as dept stores as well. Parents need to be responsible and use common sense. children are curious, energetic etc. but the parent needs to be in control, not texting or talking on cell phone. Our children are our most precious possession. care for them as such.

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shauna penska

9:37 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I have lived in the Pittsburgh area my entire life. I have visited this zoo each year for the past 31 years. The African painted dog exhibit leaves a lot to be desired. My problem with this exhibit is that it doesn't coincide with how dangerous these animals are. To be honest, I wasn't aware of exactly how dangerous these dogs were until this past May when 9 of them escaped the enclosure. Mrs Baker, the zoo CEO or whatever, said they just escaped to a back yard that was also fenced in. If that's the case, then why did they have zoo visitors file into buildings for safety? If they only escaped into a "back yard". Of course many zoo animals are dangerous, they are wild animals. The level of safety for zoo patrons with this dog enclosure should be (esp after the incident in May) looked at as severe as the enclosures surrounding the tigers and lions.
There is no netting in front of the area where the child fell, which makes no sense.
My heart goes out to the family of this little boy. Don't get me wrong, it was a life altering bad decision on the mothers part, but the "punishment" she is receiving is enough for a lifetime.

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Marcus smith

9:37 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

Why wouldn't someone have jumped in?

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Amanda

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I agree, I would have jumped in myself, I would not have thought twice about trying to save that baby, even if it cost my own life.

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Amy

10:38 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

Marcus, that question eats away at my heart every time i think about this tragedy. I do not know if others were around to help. Usually this time of year there aren't many people around. We are lucky if we see five people. I am sure Maddox's mother is beating herself up inside.

Roger

9:52 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

To be sure, a tragic event.

Suggesting changes at the zoo is a knee-jerk reaction. There are many other public places with drop offs. Go to the shopping mall, and find railings with drop offs greater that 12-14 feet. Go to the stadiums and find railings with drop offs greater than 12-14 feet. If changes are dictated at the zoo, are changed dictated at all these other public places with railings have drop offs behind them?

Perhaps the best that can be made of this very bad situation is to use it as a lesson. It serves as a lesson for all parents to understand the hazards of positioning children in vulnerable places. A short slip in judgment can compromise the safety of a child. Events like this happen so fast that preventative measures are only effective. Remedial measures are way too slow to be useful.

For me, the animals are just being the instinctive animals that nature holds for them. The title of this piece is misleading, using "euthanizing." That idea doesn't even enter the discussion. Food isn't the issue, rather instinct.

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RPD

9:15 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I agree, Roger. Blaming the zoo and the previous inspections is not the answer. Sadly, it usually takes a tragedy such as this for additional safety measures and precautions to be taken and lessons learned. Danger is all around us, everywhere we go. We just all need to exercise a little more awareness, safety and common sense.

Laura Bee

10:54 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012

I saw a video on YouTube of a much smaller pack (five dogs, I believe) hunting and taking down an impala. It was 26 seconds between them catching the impala and ripping it in half - literally in two pieces! How much softer is a toddler... No one could have gotten in there fast enough to save the child.

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Amanda

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

Laura,
I understand but to watch and not try to save him is beyond my imagination...

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M Miller

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

The fall didn't kill the child the dogs did. The deck is not safe. 4 ft high? My nephew could climb that and be over it in 5 seconds on his own. And keep them in strollers? It's the zoo! It's meant for the children. It should be safe.

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Ed M

12:31 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012

A responsible parent would not let their toddler climb on something they are not suppose to climb on

Desiette

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

The mother cannot blame this on the zoo. Heck even if the fence was only 4 feet high, who would be stupid enough to place their child on the edge of a pit of wild predators. Some old fashioned common sense could have prevented this needless tragedy (Iam talking about both the child and an endangered animal)

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JoAnn

7:35 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

My prayers are for little Maddox, his Mom, Dad and family. Mom, Dad and family are suffering and are heartbroken and I wish them peace as difficult as it may be.
God has a new Angel in Heaven. If anyone knows this family, please surround them with love and compassion; they need it now more than ever.

I have an issue with Baker the CEO of the Zoo. I watched her on TV and she said personnel were there in seconds but it was too dangerous for them to do anything. Really? Shouldn't the Zoo be equipped to handle a horrific situation such as this? In this horrific situation personnel should have been armed to shoot these dogs to try and save him. Witnesses have said it took 5 or more minutes before the police arrived to shoot the one dog that wouldn't go away from the child. These dogs may be endangered specie, however, they are NOT more important than a human life ever!

Peace and prayers also to the witnesses, police, personnel and anyone else that may have been there during this tragedy.

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NE12Ukid

8:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

You should wait to hear all the facts before pointing fingers at Baker or anyone else.
And then, why not let it to GOD to judge?

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Bryan

8:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

The zoo was able to call off 7 of the dogs quickly. Unfortunately something like this has never happened before so it is very hard to prepare for something like this. Once these dogs get into a pack hunting mentality, there's not much that can be done.

As a parent of a 2 year old, I can say that I would rather die trying to save my child than watch that happen.

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Amy

10:38 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

I myself would jump in for my child or any child. But not everyone thinks that way and that does not make them at fault. I dont know if there were others around but when we go during this time of year we are lucky to run into maybe two people. Were there others around that could have jump in? I heard she ran for help, she panicked and was alone. She relives that moment over and over in her head wondering why she didnt do this or that. As a mother of a 4yr old and a son that just turned 3, my heart breaks everyday for the parents. She will punish herself for the rest of her life.
I do agree with the personnel thing. Even if there was no chance for him, they still should have done everything possible to stop them from ripping him apart. What if an animal got out and was attacking people? Are they just going to say they did all they could and stand back and wait for police? I have no desire to see those dogs or that exhibit. I do not think the dogs should be put down but i do think they should be relocated to another zoo(if any of them want them)

RPD

9:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

That's why WE as parents need to ensure our children's safety.

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Jaun

1:00 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

VERY SAD.PARENTS IN THE END ARE THE NUMBER 1 RESPONCABLE FOR YOUR BABY SAFETY. I PRAY FOR THE MOTHER.

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Amber

8:22 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012

I have recently been to the zoo, and can clearly recall thinking that area did not seem safe to me! But it was not the open area that conserned me it was how close the dogs could get to the sides of the platform! I believe I remember signs posted about NOT being up on the exhibits all over the zoo! The fault lies only with one person in my opinion, but I sure she's beating herself up pretty good! A simple net over the open area would suffice! In my opinion!

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Amy

9:53 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012

My heart breaks every day for little Maddox and his mother and father. I have cried everyday when I hear about this tragic accident. We frequent the zoo often since we have had memberships the last couple yrs and have a 4 and 3 yr old. Elizabeth is NOT the first parent to ever lift her child up to see better. I have seen it many times when at the zoo. We ALL have learned a lesson but it is so sad that Maddox and his family had to pay the ultimate price. I too felt uneasy about the dog exhibit and we usually avoid it. We were there a couple weeks before this accident and the dogs were everywhere and right by the glass(I never see them there) The kids were in luck. No one is to blame for this tragic accident. Accidents happen and it is devastating when a person, especially a child loses their life. The dogs should not be put down but I do agree with others that have commented how there is no desire to see them. When we get the courage to go again, I will not go to that exhibit. I will just be reminded of poor Maddox and his mother having to witness his terrible death. i think they should move the dogs to another zoo. Such heartache connected to that exhibit now. Just MHO. Prayers to Maddox and his family during this difficult time. I pray for Elizabeth that she knows many many mothers are out there mourning with her and are so very sorry she has to mourn the loss of her beautiful boy. RIP Maddox.

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Silkyslim

7:35 am on Friday, November 9, 2012

@ Ed M you are absolutely right....I agree.......

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kristy taft

8:31 am on Saturday, November 10, 2012

Ok I have read many of the comment, yes the railing was only four feet even if it was higher a parent is still going to lift their child up so they can see. It was a bed decision and with out a drought tragic. I was just their my self and found the exhibit to be safe, however everything can always be safer. yes they could put up the netting all the way around the inclosure. I feel for the lose of a loved one for any one, however It sicked me that anyone can write these poor dogs off, that only did as they know to do, like any wild animal. This exhibit should not be closed, it is not a waste of space, this living creature is beautifully and has every right to be at the zoo as any one of the other wild animals. We as humans need to consider that they are wild and even though they are beautifully they a as well very dangerous. It may be harsh to say but there was a insentient animal doin only what it knew was murdered that day and not many seem to care about that at all.

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ljbr

7:41 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

The zoo should be closed indefinitely and the exhibit closed and never opened again! No it is not a safe place, not if something this tragic happened!

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Roger

7:55 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Do you suggest Heinz Field and PNC Park, plus the many other public places around Pittsburgh be closed as well? These places have railings a few feet high, with significant drop offs. Are the stairwells, the balconies, the stands with railings not safe either? Every year, several people are killed in sports stadiums because they fell over railings, dropping far enough to cause fatal injuries.

Help us out on why the zoo is unique?

P.S. How about the third-story balcony where a young man died on late Saturday night (early Sunday morning?)? He fell from the balcony, causing fatal injuries. Should these settings also be closed down?

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Suz

9:36 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

@Roger - I get your point but this boy did not die from the fall as in the case of the stadium accident and the accident on the South Side. He was mauled by the dogs. With that said, there should be no possible way for anyone to enter that exhibit. I also think the exhibit should be shut down and the dogs placed in another zoo in another city. Too tragic and horrific to keep here.

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cc

8:09 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012

It was not the dogs fault. The are wild animals and that is how they survive, eating other animals. They do not know the difference between a human and a animal. I feel for the boy that lost his life. The mother will have to live with the horrible mistake she made by putting her child on the railing and not keeping a hand on him.

Pat

9:46 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

I agree with Roger. A standard handrail is 4 ft high. I seen these types of railings on bridges hundreds of feet over water. These rails are literally every where. All you have to do is look around to see them. This accident was very tragic indeed. Thoughts and prayers to the young boy who perished and his family.

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crystal

10:50 pm on Monday, November 12, 2012

Im a mother of two , if something this tragic happened to me id be a mess. Im so sorry for the mother and family. I feel the zoo is safe. I live 2 1/2 hrs away and drive there every summer we love it. I feel the zoo isnt at fault the mother shouldnt of let the lil guy up there by himself he was to young. Again Iam sorry for her loss. My heart goes out to her and her family.

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pgh resident

9:36 am on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

My prayers go out to the mother for her grief /guilt and the father for the loss of Maddox. The Zoo should not be closed lol at that, and check your spelling before hitting send!

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K

2:31 pm on Tuesday, November 13, 2012

There is far more danger with little ones dying in swimming pools and car accidents (even in car seats) but yet children still swim and parents put them in cars. Life does involve risk. I'm sure there is not a parent out there who hasn't put their child at risk without intending to at some time. Why do we just accept that children drown in pools and get killed in car accidents but rant and rave about 1 incident at a zoo?

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James

2:44 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012

THE ZOO IS AT FAULT HERE. WOULD THEY HAVE LEFT AN OPENING ABOVE THE LION'S DEN OR THE BEAR'S DEN? THE ANIMALS BEHAVED EXACTLY HOW PACK ANIMALS BEHAVE AND NO ONE IS BLAMING THEM. ALSO THE ZOO PUTS UP MARKERS AND SIGNS TALKING ABOUT THE 'POOR LITTLE OLD ENDANGERED PAINTED DOG' WHICH LULLS PEOPLE INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY. i GO TO THE ZOO MONTHLY. THESE ANIMALS ARE DISGUSTING ALWAYS URINATING ON EACH OTHER AND ROLLING IN THE DIRT. I HOPE THE ZOO PAYS OUT THE NOSE. IS IT UNREASONABLE FOR A MOTHER TO HOLD A ONE YEAR OLD CHILD? OF COURSE NOT SHE STOOD BY THE CAGED PORTION AND MOVED AROUND A POST NOT REALIZING THE OTHER SIDE WAS NOT CAGED AND THE CHILD FELL. THE ZOO SHOULD BE ASHAMED. GO TO LIVING TREASURES AND YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE THAN THE CRAPPY ZOO. AND KEEP BLAMING THE MOTHER IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOUR OWN PATHETIC LITTLE LIFE.

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8:09 am on Saturday, December 1, 2012

James why are you yelling. Those dogs did nothing wrong, that is how they live in the wild. The zoo is not at fault either for this tragic accident that happen and they had sign up also but they don't give you a false sence of security. I never sat my children on railings, always picked them up and held them in my hands, same as I do with my grandchildren. The Zoo should not pay out any money to anyone as it wasn't their fault either.

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Law

10:58 pm on Saturday, December 8, 2012

Jame's just don't go to the zoo any more. their is such a action called responsibility and neglect when this happen's sometime's people need to be accountable for their action's ??? wow now i wonder when the law suit will start . will there be one ??? i say NOOOO because everyone will pay for for this stupid neglect.

Pgh_Mom

10:55 pm on Friday, November 30, 2012

It is comforting to see that most of the comments here are compassionate. This is the first forum I have ever joined to post a comment. I only did so because of some very judgemental comments I have seen regarding Maddox's mother. It breaks my heart and I hope she never sees those comments.

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Ashley

6:55 am on Monday, December 3, 2012

James- your version of events seems to be much different than what the DA and police have said. I've read a couple your posts and its evident that you believe the zoo was/is at fault, not the mom. Personally, I don't think it matters where the fault lies. Absolutely nothing will bring Maddox back, including the PPG zoo being sued and "paying through the nose." Also, your comment about the signs giving a false sense of security makes no sense. If you read the sign about how the dogs are endangered, you probably read the signs that say how dangerous these animals are.
This was a horrible, horrible accident. My thoughts and prayers truly go out to the Derkosh family. My God grant them peace and comfort during this time. RIP Maddox.

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NE12Ukid

8:46 am on Monday, December 3, 2012

James
2:44 pm on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 she didnt lift her child over the rail. I know the family and what happened. Maybe you should shut your piehole since you dont know anything.

If you have different information from what all law enforcement and zoo officials have, James, perhaps you should share it, or at the very least give the Patch readers your source as the rest of us are getting our information from news media such as Patch, PPG, and local television broadcasts, along with internet news reports such as CNN.

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